The latest buzz is that the NYDP is testing these new body scanners to be able to stay in their car, and scan people for weapons. Why? Because they feel that it will help them to locate illegal guns on people from across the street and stop and detain them and get the gun off the street and to cut their stop-and-frisk numbers by 500,000 per year! Sounds great right? Not so much…
From New York Post:
The war on illegal guns is going high-tech.
NYPD cops, without stepping out of their vehicles, may soon be able to detect if someone is packing heat — using technology that could greatly reduce the number of stop-and-frisk searches.
Let me say this, I totally disagree with NY and their gun laws there, and this technology brings a whole new meaning to illegal search and seizure. What happens when these scanners make their way to places like Arizona where there is constitutional carry, or even to my home state of Washington State? Do I now run the risk while legally carrying that I am going to be searched without cause, stopped at gun point all so the cop can find out if I am a felon and if I am carrying my firearm legally? This is preposterous. I am afforded a constitutional right against illegal search and seizure, and the courts here have already ruled that the mere presence of a weapon does not give law enforcement reasonable suspicion to conduct a terry stop on someone. I know that many other states out there are the same way. I open carry, and have for years. Just because I carry a weapon, it doesn’t make me a bad guy or a target for law enforcement.
NYPD Scanner Demo//NYPD File Photo
Citizens of NY that can legally posses a firearm will have to endure constant harassment, being held at gun point and the remote possibility of an officer shooting them. Anytime you are pointing a gun at someone, you run the risk of being shot, especially when that someone is a police officer. NYPD already leads the nation in stop-and-frisks with about 600,000 per year, which alone is bad enough, now that can violate you from across the street without you even knowing that you have been violated, and not having the names of the officers for any sort of recourse. At least with a stop-and-frisk there is a log of it happening (hopefully) and you can get the names of the officers that stopped you to file a complaint with their precinct or with the courts later. This idea that Americans are subjects that the police can do whatever they want with needs to stop. What will happen if the senate does pass HB822 passes and King Obama decides to sign the bill into law? When it goes into effect I can now carry in all 50 states with my Washington State CPL. By going to New York do I have to give up some of my rights because I am following the law? Do I have to be subjected to their police state and treated like a criminal just because I am legally carrying a firearm? This idea that people need to just submit, and let themselves be subject to things like this is very troublesome to me and should be to the rest of you out there trying to keep what right you do have left from being violated. Just because something sounds like a great idea, that doesn’t make it right and things like this need to be stopped before they even get off the ground.
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NYPD Body Scanners, The end of the 4th Amendment?
By WAGunRights.net on January 20, 2012
This entry is filed under Commentary and tagged 4th amendment, Body Scanner, NYPD.
The latest buzz is that the NYDP is testing these new body scanners to be able to stay in their car, and scan people for weapons. Why? Because they feel that it will help them to locate illegal guns on people from across the street and stop and detain them and get the gun off the street and to cut their stop-and-frisk numbers by 500,000 per year! Sounds great right? Not so much…
From New York Post:
Let me say this, I totally disagree with NY and their gun laws there, and this technology brings a whole new meaning to illegal search and seizure. What happens when these scanners make their way to places like Arizona where there is constitutional carry, or even to my home state of Washington State? Do I now run the risk while legally carrying that I am going to be searched without cause, stopped at gun point all so the cop can find out if I am a felon and if I am carrying my firearm legally? This is preposterous. I am afforded a constitutional right against illegal search and seizure, and the courts here have already ruled that the mere presence of a weapon does not give law enforcement reasonable suspicion to conduct a terry stop on someone. I know that many other states out there are the same way. I open carry, and have for years. Just because I carry a weapon, it doesn’t make me a bad guy or a target for law enforcement.
NYPD Scanner Demo//NYPD File Photo
Citizens of NY that can legally posses a firearm will have to endure constant harassment, being held at gun point and the remote possibility of an officer shooting them. Anytime you are pointing a gun at someone, you run the risk of being shot, especially when that someone is a police officer. NYPD already leads the nation in stop-and-frisks with about 600,000 per year, which alone is bad enough, now that can violate you from across the street without you even knowing that you have been violated, and not having the names of the officers for any sort of recourse. At least with a stop-and-frisk there is a log of it happening (hopefully) and you can get the names of the officers that stopped you to file a complaint with their precinct or with the courts later. This idea that Americans are subjects that the police can do whatever they want with needs to stop. What will happen if the senate does pass HB822 passes and King Obama decides to sign the bill into law? When it goes into effect I can now carry in all 50 states with my Washington State CPL. By going to New York do I have to give up some of my rights because I am following the law? Do I have to be subjected to their police state and treated like a criminal just because I am legally carrying a firearm? This idea that people need to just submit, and let themselves be subject to things like this is very troublesome to me and should be to the rest of you out there trying to keep what right you do have left from being violated. Just because something sounds like a great idea, that doesn’t make it right and things like this need to be stopped before they even get off the ground.
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